Wake up boys we got work to do!!

For 5 years the US has kidnapped, tortured, and incarcerated men - and some children - in Camp Delta. These men, some of whom simply disappeared from their homes, have never been charged with any crime. They are, by the standards of Islam and even by the standards that the US boast of, innocent men until they are charged, tried and proven guilty of a crime.

- Bigz: You guys can use this argument to prove that US policy has double standards – Innocent until proven guilty hey?

Some were tortured in institutions -such as Bagram airbase - before transfer to what can only be described as this US gulag. Some were beaten, tormented and humiliated by guards at the camp itself. How many may have been killed by such beatings we will never know.

- Bigz: This is reported by independent charity organisations such as Red cross, some prisoners and soldiers. Lies will always come out.

The violation of the very same standards that Bush, Blair and others have alleged that they sought to uphold, and have tried to force upon the Muslim world with their bombs and guns is obvious hypocrisy. However, the extraordinary thing is the way that these crimes - kidnap, disappearances, torture, beatings and detention without trial - have simply become accepted as norms by politicians, journalists and thinkers around the world. Some speak out, but many others do nothing or even justify such behaviour under the threat of terrorism.

- Bigz: The fear tactic has worked. Boundaries have been pushed. We need to consistently speak the truth until it prevails. Who else will do it – The Burton youth will!

Furthermore, this is a symptom of a wider problem in the war on terror (WOT). When US bombs rained down on Somalia this week, few were agitated by the unilateral action, justified by secret intelligence that high-level Al-Qaida operatives were in Somalia. That no one sought to question the evidence is in itself extraordinary. However, that no one questioned the actions shows how much normal expectations have changed. When Ronald Regan bombed Libya - a state known as a pariah in the west, accused of the Lockerbie bombings - the reaction was loud from around the world. When he invaded Grenada, there was similar reaction.

- Bigz: If we don’t speak up, they have free rein to do what they want – you guys following the argument? Ready to speak up?

Such crimes as those committed presently in the WOT were committed by states in the past that sought to establish their imperial might on the world. Britain committed huge abuses in Asia and Africa - even establishing its own extra judicial detention camps. The difference now, however, is that the world can see all these crimes. Imperialism is doomed because its dirty secrets cannot be hidden in the world of the videophone, Internet, and satellite. The response to this exposure will be anger, defiance and protest around the world, which is a healthy sign.

- Bigz: The same point – the truth always comes out. But we need to kick start it. Get ready to shout out loud. The Burton crew ready to become the youth of Islam?

Bush and Blair constantly talk about winning hearts and minds, but their actions in Guantanamo speak volumes for what they really believe in. By this reckoning, they have utterly lost the intellectual debate along with the battle to prove their material strength.

- Bigz: Lies cannot be proven. Instead they are hidden by more lies. If their values were so great, then why does the world reject them? The youth of Islam have the truth.

In World War 2 it was said that the western allies fought and sacrificed, and gave their lives for the preservation of values that protected people from tyranny and injustice. In the WOT they have argued that such values should be abandoned to protect life. In reality, Bush and Blair have made the world a more dangerous and disordered place.

- Bigz: Double standards again. History is not forgotten, only lessons are learnt - Burton youth of Islam? You ready to wear the title?